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Red Lada Vesta on 17 discs. Wheel disk deficit for Vesta! Investigation of V.

27.07.2020

The exterior style depends not only on the type of body color, some tuning elements, but also appearance Wheels, and in particular - disks. However, approaching the recruitment of these components should be not only from the side of aesthetic values, but also comply with the size of the factory requirements of VAZ VESTA sedan 1.6 2015, as well as indicators performance characteristics. In the latter case, on the background of stamping, products made of alloy alloy metals are largely won. However, financially not every motorist can afford them.

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Regarding forged products alloy wheels In Moscow, are inexpensive structures, but they are expensive than motorists compared to steel rims. However, they are in great demand in connection with the possibilities of casting technology to produce real masterpieces on the style of alloy products. Lightweight designs are able to become the main highlight of the exterior of VAZ Vesta sedan 1.6 2015. They have a worthy resistance of corrosion, which you can not say about steel disks, and demonstrate excellent running quality.

Machine rims made of aluminum or titanium alloy, which are valued by excellent physicochemical properties. At the same time, in terms of strength, these alloyed metals are not particularly inferior to steel. FROM alloy disks The owners of Vaz Vesta sedan 1.6 2015 may not worry for the safety of high-speed indicators.

In addition, alloy wheels are valued by fuel efficiency, which is ensured by the ease of construction and the low rolling resistance coefficient. In addition, they have excellent thermal conductivity, which makes it possible to prevent the likelihood of overheating brake and driving systems. This property allows drivers to feel somewhat more confidence in the safety of movement. Alloy products are balanced and have a high accuracy of geometric parameters.

Choice complexity

Such a wide range of discs, which is offered today domestic and foreign manufacturers create certain difficulties when buying components in Moscow. After all, sometimes brands for the same specifications Products are exhibiting perfect different prices. However, is the quality of the quality indicators?

On the website of the Wheel Dair online store, you can familiarize yourself with various reviews of motorists who have already managed to evaluate all the advantages and disadvantages of various discs on Vaz Vesta sedan 1.6 2015 and make your choice. You can also consult with the competent managers of our store, which can not just pick up for you optimal option Wheels in quality and cost, but also answer all the questions that arise.

When choosing disks, it is worth noting the importance of the quality factor, which you move. If you have to overcome the extreme difficulties of relief daily, it makes sense to give preference only by budget stamped components.

If you have a limited budget can always be purchased more affordable by price, but no less high-quality replica. Moreover, today many brands create copies of original wheels, which are not inferior in the performance of the operational characteristics of "native" details.

Why should you buy discs in Moscow?

We propose not to waste time for long searching for reliable distributors of automotive components and order wheel items in the Wheel Dair online store. We have a wide range of models of discs of various types from the time-tested manufacturers. We are sure that you will be satisfied with the quality of our service and directly acquired goods.

M s set out logical issues: how to increase the increase in the diameter of the disk to the tight masses and, accordingly, on the suspension resource; Whether additional tests were carried out, during which the engineers decided to upgrade nodes, or tests showed that the increase in dimension would not affect the "hodovka" state.

These questions were sent to the press service of the auto plant. Were shipped twice. But we have not received any response after five days. Therefore, we decided to bring the opinion of the Observer Experts "Wheel" and ask you, our readers, what you think about this.

Currently, the maximum dimension of the wheels available to equip Vesta is 195/55 R16. At the Lada stand, a sedan was set on 17 disks, "shoes" in rubber Michelin. 205/50.


However, on official images of Vesta Exclusive, equipped with 17-inch wheels, but with Rubber Hankook 225/50. We assume that the dimension of the tire of the serial Vesta in new modification It will be 205/50.

Now directly to the comments of our experts.

Losses in dynamics, comfort and economy are connected mainly with an increase in the mass of the wheels, if the increase will be minimal, then the negative consequences will be insignificant. The increased price of wheels and rubber in any case is offset by the buyer. But whether AvtoVAZ will rebuild the suspension, taking into account the changes of the elastic characteristics of the wheels and their mass - a big question.

Today Vesta has a very well-developed suspension from the point of view of the balance of running characteristics. Will the car maintain its advantages in the form of a very successful combination of smoothness and manageability will show time and tests.


But not always low-profile tires - good. Almost any bodie is a "hernia" or through damage, sometimes - a disk geometry disorder with a subsequent rolling (which also does not bring the use disk).

Now consider the situation when the diameter of the entire wheel grows with the increasing disk diameter.

This is reflected immediately on many parameters: on acceleration, maximum speed, braking, fuel consumption. Start a little more "lie" speedometer, however, not critical. If short, all parameters will become worse, only maximum speed Maybe a little increasing. Yes, and the clearance will be higher. Otherwise, everything is much sadder: the car accelerate will be worse, and it will noticeably.

In 2016, AvtoVAZ announced the creation Lada Vesta. and Lada Xray. In exclusive versions. The first cars were presented at the car dealership Lada "Exclusive". Innovation of models - 17 inches discs. To date, Lada Xray is already actively put such wheels, but Vesta is still being content with only 16 inches.

In the light of these events, a reasonable question arises: how to increase the wheel diameter affect the car suspension? AvtoVAZ does not give a response to this question. Let's try to figure it out on your own.

Maximum permissible size Discs for Lada Vesta - 195/55 R16.
At the auto show was presented Vesta with hankook tires 225/50. Presumably the size of the West Wheels exclusive will be 205/50.

As a rule, an increase in the dimension of the disk has a positive effect on handling. This is due to the reduction of the fuel supply of the wheel in the side. Also increases the volume of braking mechanism.
By increasing the diameter of the disk on Vesta, the engineers most likely wanted to betray the "sharpness" of the control system.

It should be remembered that with increasing mass wheel disks Speaker is lost. If the dimension changes are insignificant, as in our case, then the consequences are practically invisible.

However, how will the suspension be changed in the new version of Vesta?

Now the vests suspension is made in such a way as to balance its maximum driving performance. It greatly affects the smoothness of the machine and on its handling.

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Of course, everyone knows that an increase in the diameter of the disk is not always accompanied by an increase in the wheel. Sometimes low-profile rubber dress up on a large disk diameter. In this case, only the appearance of the car, and, in part, handling. However, there is a significant minus - the irregularities of roads. Any pit or bump leads to damage.

Consider the inverse situation - with an increase in the size of the wheel disc, the wheel itself increases. In this case, the car will slowly accelerate and slow down, but the maximum speed can increase a little.

The large diameter of the disk is not always a big weight. Here you need to look at the whole wheel in the aggregate. However, the weight of the wheel of 17 inches on the new Vesta will be slightly more than 16 inch. On the car suspension, we practically do not notice. Basically, it will be possible to feel changes on a bad road.

To date, various discs on Lada Vesta are presented on the market. The main differences between them are the materials from which they are made, ways of manufacturing and fastening, dimensions. To properly pick up the car components, their sizes presented in the table should be known below.

Tire dimension with speed and load capacity indicesDimensions and disk parametersAir pressure on tires on the front / rear wheels, MPa (kgf / cm 3)
Rim width (inches)Departure rim, mm
Recommended by the manufacturer of the parameters175/70 R15 88h6J.50 0,21/0,21 0,2/0,22
185/60 R16 91N(2,1/2,1) (2,1/2,1)
Permissible parameters185/65 R15 88T, H5J, 5 1/2 J, 6j50 0,21/0,21 0,21/0,21
195/55 R16 87, 91T, H5 1/2 J, 6j(2,1/2,1) (2,1/2,1)

T - index of permissible speed within 190 km / h;

N is an index of permissible speed within 210 km / h;

Et - the departure of the rim, which denotes the distance from the bustal surface of the disk to the middle of its rim;

incomplete load - the presence in the cabin of three adults, without cargo in the trunk;

full load - presence in the cabin more than three adults, or the presence of three adults in the cabin and luggage weighing 50 or more kg (depending on the capacity of the luggage compartment).

Fastening the wheel to the hub of the car is carried out with the help of four bolts through the holes on the disk. It has four holes, the centers of which are located on a diameter of 100 mm.


The easiest and cheapest option is steel stamped discs on Lada Vesta. They are made by punching the mold. External differences in detail depend on the characteristics of the stamp, according to its forms, the product acquires its final form. The main advantage of stamping is strength and resistance to external influences: scratching, shocks, scratches.

R15 from steel disks are provided by the manufacturer when buying a car in basic configuration. Recommended tire sizes 175/70 R15. You can buy stamping in many service centers and stores, after ordering them on the website of the store, where photos and prices are presented. Retail price in Moscow begins with 1300 rubles per piece and can reach 2500 rubles.

When buying discs, you should first clarify whether a fastener is included in the purchase price. Sometimes the fasteners need to be purchased separately.

Popular alloy wheels on Lada Vesta are distinguished by a wide selection of design and diameter. They are made from a special alloy. In addition to the base metal of aluminum, the alloy contains magnesium, strontium and titanium additives. The casting process occurs under the influence high pressurewhich contributes to the rapid harvesting of the workpiece. With the help of computer simulation and milling, the part gets the final form.


Multi-level manufacturing process cast drives explains them high cost. They are lighter by weight, but have fewer resistance to mechanical damage.

Lada Vesta on casting is represented by the manufacturer in two versions:

  • rake R15 recommended for tires dimension 175/70 R15 and 205/60 R15;
  • r16 discs are suitable for tires with dimensions 185/60 R

On a note!

Alloy wheels 15 Radius on Lada Vesta are provided when buying a car in the configuration "Lux". For a fee as additional equipment Alloy wheels can be installed 16 radius in Lada Vesta.

You can buy alloy wheels on Lada Vesta in specialized centers and online stores, on the websites of which photos are presented. The average price for casting radius R15 2500 - 4000 rubles, depending on the manufacturer and design. The 16-inch rollers will cost the owner of the car more expensive - from 3500 to 6000 rubles per piece.

Alternative wheel sizes

In pursuit of beauty and unusual external species Owners of Lada Vesta set rollers of the seventeenth and eighteenth radii. They envisage the presence of low-profile rubber, which is very sensitive to the slightest irregularities of the road, which makes a trip to the car less comfortable.

R17 discs

Quite often there are vet cars with wheels with R17 radius. They look noticeably more than standard in fifteen inches. Recommended tire sizes for this type of casting 175/55 R17, 195/50 R17. External features are presented in the photo Lada Vesta on 17 discs. You can buy such shoes for a car for 5,000 rubles per piece, a foreign product with an exclusive design will cost 15-17 thousand.

R18 discs

For the first time skating of this size were presented on the concept of Lada Vesta with tires 235/45. Photo of Lada Vesta on 18 disks clearly demonstrates sports design and car dynamics. R18 casting is much more expensive than its "younger brothers" - from 9000 rubles per piece.

Recently, it becomes very popular to combine contrasting colors in the design of the car. This trendy trend contributed to the production of rinks in different color Gamma. On the Internet spaces you can find many photos with various combinations of car body colors and disk rim.


Disks on white Lada Vesta recommend to put a contrasting black color. Black cast looks profitably on the background of a white body. By the same principle, you can choose discs on. White rollers will be bright and attract the attention of others. Classic silver casting is suitable for machines of any color and is a universal option.

Among the numerous design innovations attract attention to weta discs with a bright red edging along the edge of the rim and on the spokes. They are suitable for any color of the car body, but preferably put them on a red car. This combination gives the car a sporty appearance and unique personality. Even in dense urban traffic, the car will stand out from a total stream and to pay attention to others.

What is affected by the size of tires and disks

The increase in the size of the tires and discs will affect the operation of the Vesta Lada:

  • The increase in the diameter of the disk has a positive effect on the quality of the steering, the holding of the road, but reduces the level of comfort on the uneven road.
  • An increase in the width of the disk will also improve steering And the deduction of the road, but will increase fuel consumption.
  • Increasing the width of the tire is also for the better affect management, including on an uneven road, will improve the adhesion with the road (in dry weather). At the same time, the consumption of gasoline and wear of tires will increase, as well as affect the resistance to aquaplanilation. Noise level will increase.

Good afternoon, dear zarulevitsy!I want to throw a relevant topic for the article. I owner Lada Vesta SW Cross, and now for me the purchase of winter tires on disks is relevant. However, it turned out that AvtoVAZ used a non-standard disk with departure 43 and demands to use it only to avoid loss of warranty. The official disc is spacecraft 7.5 thousand, the possible replacement is only one - for 6.5 thousand and even the manufacturer in stock is only 1 (one) disk (consider that there is no replacement).Thus, the plant imposes a purchase of its unique disk on a clearly high price. Why not attract public attention to this and do not request the commentary of the plant? At least the plant could solve other replacement options. Judging by the forums, the people put the 15th and 16th wheels, risking the guarantee, because the imposed option is trally twice as expensive.With all respect, Andrew.

Dear Andrei! We tried to answer your questions from all possible positions.

Officially

Any manufacturer, not just AvtoVAZ, will require only those that are written in the instruction manual. On them the car passed factory tests and certification. As he behaves to "shoes" with other parameters, the manufacturer is unknown, and it cannot take responsibility for such a replacement.

To confirm this obvious, in general, I have nevertheless contacted the press service of AvtoVAZ and incognito called hot line Lada. Both sources were unanimous: only 17-inch tires and wheels with parameters specified in the operating instructions are allowed on the sedan and universal. Other options will be treated as a reason for failure in warranty repair of the chassis.

Sanctions

You can pay not only with refusal to free repairs. If the tire not approved by the plant notices the DPS inspector on the road, it is entitled to make a protocol on car inconsistency with the requirements Technical Regulationsp. 5.1 which says: "Vehicles must be equipped with tires according to the operational documentation of manufacturers vehicle" And this is already a reason for stopping registration, if the fault is not eliminated.

Wheel marking is usually applied to the inner surface. If you are aware of Vesta Cross in the same 17-inch wheels, but with other departure parameters, widths and diameters of the central hole, assess the compliance directly on the road the inspector will certainly not be able to. But the other diameter is already obvious, and will tell it on the tire.

An other diameter, except for the seventeenth, will also put the cross on the possibility. If you completely thicken the paint, there may be extremely unpleasant consequences in the event of a difficult outcome accident. After such, they often prescribe a lot of expertise and find out all the details. Non-standard wheels will pop up, and who knows how the investigators regarding this. But this is the theory.

Reality

Real life, as usual, has some differences. I called several official dealers of the Lada in Moscow and, introducing the owner of the SW Cross wagon, asked to advise the alternative to the native "shoot" by 17 inches. The answers were like a copy. Managers department of spare parts have not seen any problems in installing 16-inch wheels and were ready to offer options.

To the question in the forehead "And what with a guarantee?" Stewed and switched to the relevant specialist. And already a predictable answer sounded from the warranty: wheels will stand up, but the appearance with them on the service will refuse to refuse to repair the suspension. However, everyone was given to understand what it would not be happening. Would you believe them for the word?

Of course, you can put the trips to the season when your Vesta is shod in factory wheels. But the fact that dealers are woven not approved by the plant dimension, outrageous. Someone will buy them without asking any questions! And then in the same technical center, to his surprise, will receive a refusal warranty.

Do AvtoVAZ blame?

First of all, the wording "turned out" in the question of the reader is incomprehensible. Allowed by the manufacturer of the dimension of tires and wheels are indicated in the instruction manual, which is posted on the official site in public domain. If spending on consumables for the car are so important for the future owner, it is advisable to review prices even before buying a car.

It is necessary to admit that with the price of the original 17-inch wheel (about 7,500 rubles) AvtoVAZ really faded. Starting a dozen of the largest sites selling wheels, I really found only one perfect suitable option - Kick Flanker. It is cheaper than a thousand rubles, which gives savings of 4000 rubles from the kit. What, in my opinion, not so little.

In the end, there is no obligation to make the winter set in the collection. Wheels too expensive? Buy only tires. For the money that he asks the Lada dealer for one disk, you can rebuild the entire car three or four times.

And if we speak quite frankly, AvtoVAZ is by no means alone in a desire to earn slightly. Similar "Divorce" for extra money, if you search, you can find hardly any car! And the case of S. West Cross. Not the worst thing: for a careful buyer, it is obvious even before purchasing.

If you do not leave far from the topic of the chassis, I remember two examples. On French cars for a long time, alloy wheels were used without the central hole. They are impossible on a standard tire machine. I had to look for a workshop with rare equipment. Someone in the regions - sure! - there was only one way, to official dealer With his queues and draconian prices. And for not unoriginal racks were not available. And this is despite the fact that on the last generation of C5, their "snaps" and the knocks could not be corrected for years, and the owners of the machines changed several kits in a row.

Finally, a small hint: Write complaints and wishes, if something does not suit you. Only not in the "driving" log, but a direct manufacturer. In recent years, AvtoVAZ has not once demonstrated that he listens to customers. It is possible when the number of appeals reaches the critical volume, for Vesti in the version of Cross, the 16-inch tires and wheels are certified.

Wheel disk deficit for Vesta! Investigation of V.