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What is the ignition coil on Logan. Faults Coil and ignition lock: What to do? Renault Logan.

27.09.2019

For Renault Logan and Renault Sandero with 8-valve Motors K7J and K7M, released until 2012, very frame problem Is the appearance of "Troji" engine. It is especially strongly manifested after a long parking lot or in crude weather.

The main and most likely reason, as a rule, is the appearance of cracks at the bottom of the ignition coil. They arise over time due to sharp temperature drops.

The fact is that the ignition coils on Logan and Sandero until 2012 are established in such a way that due to their design, the lower part comes into contact with the cover of the cylinder block. Over time, plastic coil housing is bursting and cracked, in which moisture falls. This leads to violations in the work. Although it is worth noting that on many cars, the cracks in the coil do not affect the operation of the engine for many years.


There are several ways to solve the problem.

The most common installation option Bosch coils. Its fundamental distinction is the brackets that it is attached to the cover of the GBC. Due to them, the gap between the coil and the cover of the GBC is ensured. The only negative design is that when installing this coil, due to its higher position, there is not enough length of the standard high-voltage wire of the 2nd cylinder. Therefore, it will have to either find a replacement for this wire, or purchase a set of longer high-voltage wires. The ideal option is the Bosch Wire Set. An alternative to him can be a set of high-voltage wires NGK.


The most fiscal way to solve the problem is to purchase a similar ignition coil of the old design. In this case, it is recommended to pick up a little longer bolts, similar to the fact that the coil and nuts to them are fixed. Nuts are used as spacers, slightly raising the ignition coil case.

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On many Renault Logan. And Sandero ignition coil is deformed by temperature.

Owners may not know about the problem, it is visually visible.

The deformation of the ignition coil can be seen only after removal.

The reason for such deformation due to the constructive miscalculation of engineers. The coil is very tightly adjacent to the motor and plastic cracks from temperature. In addition, the moisture accumulates under the coil and falls into the coil body.

It is worth noting that on many cars this problem It does not affect work.

There are two ways to solve the problem.

1. Installing the Bosch coil, which has a spacer and no tight contact with the engine. When installing the Bosch coil, new wires will be required, since the wire of the 2nd cylinder will not be pretended to the connector.

Coil number Bosch F000ZS0221 (cost 2500-2700 rubles)

Plus wires about 1,200 rubles.

2. In order not to bring the case before replacing the coil on the Boshevskaya (2600 r.) + Replacing the wires (about 1200 rubles), it is easier to immediately raise a regular coil by about 10 mm, laying under the bolts of the nuts of the appropriate thickness, how much high-voltage wire 2nd cylinder.

How to remove the ignition coil on the Logan


Disconnect the connector


Remove wires


unscrew the three coil fastening bolts


remove the coil, observe (possibly) such a picture


install a new bosch coil in place


Included with the coil, the bolts are shorter than relatives, we take the short and tighten the key to 10



report: Juniorlawyer (DRIVE2.RU)

Of great importance for the operability of the car has a Renault Logan ignition coil. With its malfunction, the car simply will not be able to start, which means its own functions vehicle She will not fulfill. Unfortunately, the ignition castle of Renault Logan in general and the coil in particular quite often fail. On how to repair them or completely replace you will learn from the article.

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Ignition Castle and Features of His Replacement

Structurally, the ignition lock is an electrical element in the contact part and mechanical blocking. It is located on the right of the steering column. To manage this node, the key is used.

The lock has several components and the output of any of them leaves the machine without energy. Most often, problems with the relay and breakage of the return spring occur.

Repair Instructions and Replace Ignition Coil

Further replacement instructions are designed for 16 valve Engine. But you can adapt it and for the option with 8 valves to repair it.

Need to be done as follows.

  1. First, you need to disconnect meals from the coil.
  2. Then remove the prooferry, they are PNV. Please note that they are marked in accordance with the cylinder numbers, which are connected.
  3. Now you need to unscrew three bolts that are fixed by the coil. If it is set for a long time, they could rusted, so when unscrewed it may be necessary to apply force. But be careful.
  4. Now you just need to install a new coil on the same place. It included three bolts in the kit. Although they can be shorter than old, use them anyway.
  5. Now simply connect the armor in accordance with the numbers on the coil
  6. It remains only to connect a block with wires and check the operation of the engine.

If you are all done correctly, the problems with the engine work will not arise and it can easily start.

Video "Replacing the ignition module on Renault Logan"

In this video schematically shows the entire process of replacing the module (the author of the roller - repair Renault Logan with their own hands).

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Check engine ignition coils 1.6 (16V) and their Renault Logan chains, Sandero


To check the performance of the ignition coil, we reset the pressure in the engine power system (see) and do not connect the wiring bundle of the engine control system to the fuel module cover connector.
Remove the ignition coil and insert an ignition candle in it.


Click the threaded part of the candle to the metal part of the engine.

To avoid damage to current when turning crankshaft Starter Do not touch the spark plug with your hands.
Assistant, translating the key in the ignition switch to the "D" position, turns the crankshaft starter.
With good spark plug, the ignition coil and its chains between the candle electrodes should regularly slip sparks. If this is not the case - it is necessary to check the power supply chain and the coil control.
To check the power circuit of the coils, disconnect the shoe of the wiring of the engine control system from the coil 1 or 2 cylinder ...


... and connect one tester proscius to the "mass" of the engine, and the other to the output 1 pads of the wiring harness.
When the ignition is turned on, the device must fix the battery voltage.
If there is no voltage, then may be faulty: fuses, contact Group ignition switch, relay K5 or their electrical circuits.
Check the circuits of the relay K5 and fuses F3 and F02 cm "Check engine ignition coil 1.4-1.6 (8V) and its chains".
To check the ignition coil control circuits, use a 1.2-wal tube tube. Drop the pressure in the engine power system (see "Removing and disassembling the fuel module") And do not connect the wiring harness of the engine control system to the fuel module connector. Disconnect the pads of the wiring harness from the ignition coils 1 and 4 cylinders. Connect the probe probe to the "1" switching of the wires of the coil of 1 cylinder and the output of "2" blocks of wires of the coil of 4 cylinder.
With good control circuits and power, the ignition coil during the crankshaft rotation of the starter, the probion light should often flash. Otherwise, we check for a breakting and closure on the "mass" connecting the output of the "2" shoe shoes of the coil of the coil of the coil of 4 cylinder with the output of the "32" block of the wiring of the ECU wires.
Similarly, check the chains of coils 2 and 3 cylinders, connecting the tester's probe to the "2" blocking blocks of the coil of the coil 3 and to the output "1" of the ECU blocks.
If the power circuit and the control of the ignition coil are good, but when checking on the spark plug, there is no spark (see above), then the coil itself should be checked.
To check the ignition coil, measure the resistance of the primary and secondary windings of the coil.
To check the primary winding ...


... Connect the probe tester (in the ommeter mode) to the "1" and "2" ignition coils.
In a serviceable coil, the impedance of the primary winding should be 0.5 ± 0.02 ohms.
To check the secondary winding ...


... Connect the probe tester (in the module mode) to the "2" output and high-voltage output of the ignition coil.
In a serviceable coil, the resistance of the secondary winding should be 7.5 ± 1.1 com.
If the coils are working, check the connections circuit between the wires of the wires of coils 1 and 4 cylinders. To do this, disconnect the wire blocks from the ignition coils 1 and 4 of the cylinders and connect the tester probe (in the module mode) to the "2" switching of the wires of the coil of the cylinder 1 and the output of the wires of the coil of the coil 4 cylinder. If the tester shows the "infinity" - in the chain opening.
Similarly, check the coil circuit 2 and 3 cylinders, connecting the tester probe to the "2" shoe blocking blocks 2 of the cylinder coil and to the output of the wires of the wires of the coil 3 cylinder.

Replacing the ignition coil (module) Renault Logan on 8 and 16 cl Motor

The ignition coil (module) is one of the elements of the ignition system of any car that converts a low-voltage voltage into a high-voltage pulse. The coil can be both overall (in 8 valve engines) and individual (in 16 valve). If we speak in a simple language, then the ignition coil is a device feed voltage in high-voltage wires (PVN) on the spark plug.

Possible causes of ignition module malfunction (coil)

Most of the owners of Renault Logan with 8 valve engines face the same problem. The ignition coil (one on all the candles) is located on the valve lid, which during the operation of the motor is heated and leads to the melting of the coil housing. Very often on the coils you can see traces of melting, cracks and chips on the case. As a result of a strong heating of the valve cover, heat is transferred to the ignition coil, it is one of the design deficiencies of Logan with 8 valve motors.

As a result, there are most often problems in the work of the coil.

Signs of module malfunction (coil) ignition

  • Increased fuel consumption
  • Uneven engine operation, failures
  • Temporary loss of speakers when driving

When identifying one of the above features, refer to specialists, or independently check the ignition module.

Selection of the module (coil) for Logan with 8 CL Motor

The original ignition coil at number 224336134R was installed on the car from 2012 release, before that several other types of coils were installed, so before buying a new one, it is better to remove the old and see the part number. The coils with number 7700274008 were installed on the model.

Analogs of the original ignition module:

  • Bosch F000ZS0221 (Germany)
  • TSN 1229 (Russia)
  • Quartz QZ0274008 (Germany)
  • FRANCECAR FCR210350 (France)

What kind of coil to choose, depends on your financial capabilities.

Selection of the coil (module) ignition for 16 cells of the motor

The number of the original ignition coil 8200765882. Just 16. valve Motor. 4 ignition coils, for each candle on one coil.

Analogs:

  • Valeo 245104 (France)
  • TSN 1246 (Russia)
  • Quartz QZ0765882 (Germany)
  • NGK 48002 (Japan)

When choosing a coil for 16 cells of the motor, you can choose the original. Its value in relation to the analogues is not large.

Instructions for replacing the module for 16 cl motor

Disconnect the power supply of the power supply from the coil.

Remove the three coil fastening bolts and remove it. If the coil is worth a long time, then there may be problems with its unscrewing. Bolts can "fuck" or rushing the thread, be careful.

We take a new coil and install in place. With the ignition coil must go 3 bolts of fastening. They are shorter than from the old coil, but they will be screwed up new ones.

Now we look at the number on the coil and wear PVN (armorberry)

Instructions for replacing 16 cl motor

Everything is much easier here. Each candle has its own individual ignition coil.

  1. Disconnect the plug from the ignition coil
  2. Using the key to 8, unscrew the coil fastening bolt and get it
  3. We take a new coil and install in place. We make an assembly in the reverse sequence.

This replaced the coil completed.

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