Daewoo Gentra is a guarantee against perforating corrosion. Does Ravon's bodywork rust? Is it galvanized? What is the paint quality of the body? Body and corrosion

Hello everyone! I own this car for several months, I wound 12,000 mileage both in the city and on the highway. I will briefly describe the history of the acquisition, the pros / cons, everything is subjective, but without embellishment. And so, let's go!
I noticed that many owners of Gentre are transplanted from Nexia. I was no exception. Apparently this tendency is due to the fact that after Nexia they cease to be afraid of the Dao brand :-) Nexia is still with me, but I will adapt it for work while standing in the parking lot.
Nexia is rotting, it's inevitable. So my whole thing began to crumble down the bottom, it was also beaten into the hood, into the wing, into the door ... The engine is poisoning oil, somewhere antifreeze flows, there are almost no brakes ... But this is Nexia - it drives in any condition, checked for years! It was decided to buy another car. We considered many options, used. I wanted a more spacious car, with air conditioning, pillows, windows at least. We considered options - Elantra, Octavia - used. They did not find anything alive on the second-hand market. Even after one owner, the cars are in the trash. Then I went into the Ravon salon, by chance, of course. The Gentry of 2014 was brought there. at a normal discount. After all the negotiations in the family, we decided to take a new Gentra. Why? Here's the answer:
- A new car with a 3-year warranty, albeit in 2014;
- Spacious, C-class;
- Normal 6-speed automatic with manual transmission control;
- Disc brakes in a circle;
- Independent rear multi-link suspension;
- All ESP;
- Classic power steering;
- armrest;
- Cooled "glove compartment" with lighting;
- Driver's seat with height adjustment in 2 positions (I do not know how to write correctly, there are 2 lambs on the side);
- Soft plastic almost everywhere;
- Galvanized body;
- Electrically folding and heated electric mirrors;
- Timing belt chain;
- Time-tested cars with available spare parts (Lacetti);
- Price 499 tr. for all this good :)

Offhand, that for 499 tr. close to these characteristics? Nifiga.

What was not in this configuration: ABS (I do not suffer from a lack at all), seat heating (can be delivered if necessary), radio (poor factory, so I would have changed it anyway), sunroof (nafig it is needed in Russia), plastic under wood (....).

About the shortcomings that were identified and partially eliminated: Springs in the back of the driver's seat jumped out (eliminated under warranty), shitty door adjustment (eliminated under warranty), after the cabin the air conditioner was not refueled (eliminated under warranty), the driver's side mirror loosened (eliminated by warranty), the DRL lamp burned out (closer to 11,000 km, replacement - 25 rubles lamp, 80 work), a curved wiper holder on the passenger side (replaced under warranty). In my copy on the windshield, slight distortion is not a warranty case. Not annoying, as not at eye level, but still. Some kind of quiet howling at the beginning of the movement of the roofing felts from the box, or from what else, I do not know how to accurately describe. The dealer said everything is fine, so I don’t know. Doesn't bother in principle. No BK, but I do not suffer, I have never had it)

I have not finalized anything in the car yet, but what I want: alarm with a / s, Shumka arches, crankcase protection, anti-corrosion treatment, seat covers, 2-din android car radio with a rear-view camera (who will recommend what)?

I installed the trunk on top, it is necessary for work. It looks quite harmonious in my opinion (my wife categorically rejects the whole body)))

The behavior of the car is quite predictable, but on the highway over 120 km / h, the car starts to scour a little, especially with a strong crosswind. The rear suspension feels a little harsh. There is a mini-glove compartment to the left of the driver, there are niches in the doors, it is convenient.

Not without jambs on my part:
1) slightly "scratched" the rear wing and the door (the officials said, it will be polished)
2) The bumper also slightly "scratched" (a little bit of plastic), there for painting.
In general, absolutely nothing critical, it has not reached iron anywhere))

Hello. To my previous question "Why does the Ravon Nexia R3 have no seal between the right front fender and the monocoque body? On the left, not on the right," I received the following answer: "... This is a design feature of the car. Thank you for contacting us." - it was understandable even without this answer, but I would like to know for what purpose this was done?

Answer

Good afternoon, Konstantin Pavlovich. This seal is not provided by the manufacturer's designers. The employees of the plant do not indicate the reasons. Thank you for contacting us.

Kovalenko Konstantin Pavlovich

• 28/10/2019
• Smolensk

Hello. Why doesn't the Ravon Nexia R3 have a seal between the right front fender and the monocoque body? On the left there is, on the right not.

Answer

Good afternoon, Konstantin Pavlovich. This is a design feature of the car. Thank you for contacting us.

Artem

• 21/10/2019
• Kemerovo

Hello. Please explain the meaning of the option heating without air conditioning. If I understand correctly, in the absence of this option, the stove in the car will work in conjunction with the air conditioner, hence the question arises, why is the air conditioner at -10 degrees and below? In addition, this is also an increase in fuel consumption. Why I was interested in this option, I own a 2007 Chevrolet Lacheti car, I have the ability to turn off the air conditioner in my cars when the stove is running. The car is operated in Siberia and at -20 degrees and below, I never had a desire to turn on the air conditioner, but on the other hand, so that the stove was warmer. My opinion as a consumer and car enthusiast is the absence of this option in more expensive trim levels is not logical than the presence of this option in the cheapest package.

Answer

Good afternoon, Artyom. Your question is not entirely clear. The option of heating without air conditioning in the most budgetary configurations means that there is no air conditioning on the car. And regarding the operation of the air conditioner at negative temperatures, the air conditioner does not turn on at an ambient temperature of +3 - +4 degrees. Thank you for contacting us.

Yuri Anatolievich

• 09/10/2019
• Moscow

Good day! Car of 2016 from the first parties. The function of "diffused lighting" and "automatic door closing" does not work, when driving so that the locks themselves are closed, no matter how you try to set it up in the GU. Is this in all cars of the first batch and these functions do not initially work or can you completely eliminate it at the dealer?

Answer

Good afternoon, Yuri Anatolyevich. The functions you have voiced are not available in this car model and cannot be installed. Thank you for contacting us.

The Korean manufacturer Daewoo is famous for its budget and reliable cars. Most of them are "Matiz" and "Nexia". They make up the majority of the market in Russia. But in 2013, the Nexia was replaced by a new car - Daewoo Gentra. The car is produced to this day. The manufacturer positions "Gentra" as the most affordable golf class sedan. But is it worth buying a Daewoo Gentra car? Reviews of real owners, photos, review and specifications, see below.

Appearance

The design of this sedan was completely copied from the first generation Lacetti. The automaker itself does not hide this. The appearance of the Gentra is identical to the Chevrolet: slanted headlights, a streamlined bumper and a smooth roof. The back also involved plagiarism. The trunk lid and lights are exactly like the "Lacetti" in the sedan body.

As noted by the reviews, the exterior of the car is quite outdated by now. The design got lost somewhere in the 2000s. Therefore, there is no need to talk about modern lines and expressive forms. On the other hand, it is not worth criticizing a car that is sold at the price of a VAZ (by the way, we will consider prices and configurations at the end of the article).

Body and corrosion

The manufacturer notes that the thickness of the metal ranges from 0.75 to 1.8 millimeters. Moreover, the body is made of a sheet with an anti-corrosion coating. As noted by the reviews of the owners, "Daewoo Gentra" is really well protected from corrosion. Rust does not show through even on models of the first years of production. The body does not rot in the same way as on the original Korean "Nexia". But as for the gaps, here the Koreans missed. A lot of complaints from the owners are caused by the gaps between the fenders, headlights and doors.

Dimensions, clearance

The car, judging by its dimensions, belongs to the C-class. So, the body length is 4.5 meters, width - 1.72, height - 1.45 meters.

What really pleases is the high ground clearance. This is noted by the reviews of taxi drivers. "Daewoo Gentra" on standard 15-inch wheels has a clearance of 16 centimeters. Also, the car has very short bumpers, which allows you to climb curbs without any problems.

Salon

Inside, the car looks modest, but it is pleasant enough to sit. Confused except that the characteristic sound of doors closing. And this happens even on new cars, this is said in many reviews. Daewoo Gentra is available in different trim levels, which can be distinguished by the presence or absence of wooden inserts on the panel and door cards. Quite a strange decision today - aluminum or chrome inserts would look much more profitable here. Still, wood is a remnant of 90s fashion. As for the quality of finishing materials, the plastic is not hard, which pleases. Noise isolation is also at the level. True, a couple of additional sheets of insulation in the area of ​​the front arches "Gentre" would not hurt. The steering wheel is adjustable in two planes. True, this is not available in all vehicle trim levels.

Are there any problems with the salon in Daewoo Gentre? Reviews note the poor performance of the air conditioner. From the factory, a little freon is charged into it, which already evaporates over time. In order for the air conditioner to cool normally, you have to go to the service yourself and refuel the refrigerant. By the way, poor quality O-rings were used on the Gentra dehumidifier. Through them, freon, along with oil, seeped out. This is a disease of all Daewoo Gentra sedans, according to reviews. Leakage of oil from the air conditioning system led to compressor breakdowns. Many have changed it under warranty. But the owners of old models will have to repair everything at their own expense.

Trunk

The trunk volume is 405 liters. The low loading height and the presence of a niche for a full-size spare wheel are good news. In addition, you can expand the volume by folding the backrests of the rear seats. As a result, you can place up to 1226 liters of luggage.

Power section

As is the case with the rest of the models, the Daewoo Gentre does not have a wide variety of engines. So, the sedan is equipped with a single 107 horsepower gasoline engine. This is a 1.5-liter engine with a 16-valve timing system. This unit is equipped with a five-speed manual transmission or a six-speed automatic.

Performance characteristics

The one and a half liter engine does not upset in terms of dynamic characteristics, the reviews say. "Daewoo Gentra" accelerates to a hundred in about 11.5 seconds on the mechanics. With a gun - a second later. Of course, you should not expect significant power from such a motor. But in order to stay in the stream, these characteristics are enough. The maximum speed is 180 kilometers per hour.

But as for fuel consumption, here the figures for the owners differ significantly. So, the most economical consumption is obtained on "Daewoo Gentre" with mechanics. Reviews say that on a highway without air conditioning, a car spends about 6.9 liters per hundred. But the machine gun is more voracious. On the highway, this figure is a liter more. In the city, consumption reaches 12 liters. And in winter, with warming up, even more - 14 per hundred. In view of this, many owners are converting the car to gas. This results in significant savings. The car spends about the same on gas.

Are there any problems?

If we talk about the box machine "Daewoo Gentry", the reviews do not contain any complaints. Once every 60 thousand, you need to change the oil in it, and that's all. The box does not kick and shifts gears clearly. The mechanics here are completely eternal, the owners say. This design has been tested over the years and has been used since the days of the Lacetti.

But the engine ECU sometimes causes problems. This unit is located in a place where dirt, water and dust constantly get into. Therefore, the ECU often fails, and due to the banal oxidation of the contacts. As a result, the car can malfunction when idling or completely stall in the middle of the road.

Another problem concerns the generator. On the Gentra, it is short-lived. The bearing often fails, which is why you can hear the characteristic trolleybus hum under the hood. Moreover, the owners have this problem at different intervals. Someone after 5 thousand, someone after 70.

Prices, configuration

In Russia, this car is sold in several versions:

• Comfort.
• Optimum.
• Elegant.

The basic one will be available at a price of 540 thousand rubles. The list of options includes:

• Heated side mirrors.
• Power steering.
• Immobilizer.
• Two front cushions.
• Stamped wheels 15 inches.
• Audio preparation for six speakers.
• Fog lights.
• Power windows and mirrors.

The luxury "Elegant" version is available at a price of 670 thousand rubles. It offers air conditioning, ABS, alarm, steering wheel adjustment in two positions, alloy wheels, acoustics for six speakers with a radio tape recorder, heated front seats and "premium" interior trim. Each car is covered by a guarantee for a period of five years or 150 thousand kilometers.

Summing up

So, we found out what the Daewoo Gentra sedan has reviews and characteristics. The main advantage of Gentra is its price. Indeed, for 540 thousand rubles, you essentially get a Chevrolet Lacetti with a proven gearbox, a reliable chassis and a very comfortable interior. In many ways, this car is superior to the Lada, so the Gentra will definitely not be left without demand. Should you buy such a car? This car will be the ideal choice for those who want to get a new hassle-free foreign car for a small amount of money. "Gentra" is a good car for everyday life, but you will definitely not be able to stand out on it. His looks are too old.

Rust on cars that were produced in Uzbekistan at the GM Uzbekistan plant - manifests itself after several years of operation of the previous generation of cars, and other models. Potentially susceptible to metal corrosion due to powerful reagents on Russian roads.

Will Ravon's new cars rust? After all, Nexia, Gentra, P2 and P4 are assembled at the same plant in Uzbekistan?

According to the press service of the manufacturer's plant, they reconstructed and replaced equipment at the plant, which made it possible to improve the technological processes of painting. Now modern technologies and processes are used that can significantly improve the quality of the paintwork of Ravon cars. Speaking specifically about the process, tunnels were introduced at the plant to protect against dust, the body parts are now thoroughly cleaned, and the most basic processes take place at a high level of automation.

Body paint composition for all Ravon models

According to the infographics, it consists of such components as:

1. Varnish (40-50 microns)
2. Enamel (10-15 microns)
3. Electrostatic primer (30-40 microns)
4. Soil catophoresis (18-32 microns)
5. Protective metal layer "Under coat GVH-170 UBC" (minimum 500 microns)

At the same time, the thickness of the layer of protective material of the bottom and lower sidewall of Ravon cars PVC Polyvinyl Chloride abrasion resistant coating sealer is at least 300 microns.

Galvanized body

On the official website ravon.ru, visitors often ask this question, to which they receive an answer with approximately the following content:

“The body parts are stamped from a special steel sheet with an anti-corrosion coating. New technology. It is not galvanized. Thank you for contacting us. "

Moreover, it is specified in the same place that the cars come with a three-year warranty for the body, the manufacturer undertakes to carry out free repair work on body elements that have been damaged due to corrosion for 3 years, but with the proviso that the car was operated in normal conditions, as well as regular checks and maintenance were carried out on time from the service book. If in the service book all the work is documented, but nevertheless, corrosion appeared, due to manufacturing defects, and began precisely under a layer of paintwork, which subsequently led to through damage.

Bottom line. As you can see, the manufacturer is aware of the problems of past generations of cars. And he took all the necessary steps to improve the anti-corrosion properties of body parts. Of course, looking ahead, it is difficult to say what will happen in 5-7 years of operation, but in our opinion, in the next 3-5 years we will not see these cars with rust on the body.

Many potential users of Ravon cars, for example, on the forums in the reviews of the Ravon P3 mechanic have unflattering, to put it mildly, statements on the coatings of their bodies and the reliability of anti-corrosion protection.

They say that the bodies massively "bloom", and, as it should be, in the spring, since the Russian road services in winter use strong reagents.

In this review, an attempt is made to collect topical questions to the representative of the Uzbek car plant in Russia, his answers, as well as some expert explanatory comments.

Question... I wonder what about the corrosion resistance of Ravon body parts? Is the P2 body galvanized? Is there a manufacturer's warranty for corrosion perforation?

Answer. I'll start, if I may, with the last question. Our concern undertakes to carry out free work to restore the coating of body elements that are damaged by corrosion for three years after the purchase of a car. In other words, we provide a three-year warranty.

However, it is given in cases where the car is operated under normal conditions, if there are marks in the Service Book about carrying out both inspections and technical services within the timeframes specified by our plant. In this case, corrosion must be the result of a factory defect. In other words, when the destruction of the metal in the form of through damage occurred under the coating layer.

As for the answer to the first question about the galvanizing of the body, our concern uses stamping of body parts from special metal, the sheets of which have a modern coating against corrosion. This is a completely new and very effective technology. However, it is not such that it could be called galvanized.

Question. The first Ravon models had disadvantages related to the protection of body parts. What has the concern done to eliminate these shortcomings in the release of subsequent models? In particular, is the Ravon P3 body galvanized or not?

Answer. It is in the tradition of the management of our concern to respond sensitively and promptly to the comments and claims of our customers. Moreover, we are grateful to them for this. The plant carried out renovation measures in the field of coating body parts.

The coating now has four protective layers:

• to protect against corrosion, such technology as soil cathoresis is used;
• to protect body parts from electrostatic damage, a special primer is used;
• the next protective layer that is applied to the body is enamel. It is the main body color;
• and a varnish that protects the enamel and gives the body parts a polished surface.

Thus, the complex body coating has sufficient capabilities for its reliable anti-corrosion protection without galvanizing.

Expert commentary. As for the katopheresis coating, this technology has long been used abroad and relatively recently in the domestic auto industry, in particular on Lada Grant and Kalina.

Catopheresis is an electrolytic reaction accompanied by physicochemical processes. In this case, the body part is immersed in the container, connecting the anode to the part, and the cathode to the walls of the container. In the process of electrolysis, a special primer is deposited on the parts and is fixed.

The procedure for the implementation of the catopheresis technology is as follows:

• first, the surface of body parts is cleaned from oxides;
• remove grease stains;
• activation of metal surfaces is carried out;
• immersion in a container where catopheresis occurs;
• rinsing of body parts after catapheresis is carried out;
• drying is carried out in special thermal chambers.

After that, the body parts are subjected to the application of the remaining layers of the coating.

Question. Is Ravon P4 body galvanized?

Answer. Thanks for the question. The concern pays great attention to the anti-corrosion protection of car bodies, and the P4 model line is no exception. The peculiarity of the new technology of body protection, which was recently introduced by our plant, is that the steel sheet from which the body is stamped has a special coating against corrosion. Although it has nothing to do with galvanizing, it is no less effective than zinc coating of metal.

If we concretize the protection process, the concern has introduced special tunnel sections to protect body parts from dust, they are thoroughly cleaned of various contaminants, and the work on cathoresis and the application of protective coatings is automated.