What kind of oil to fill IZH Jupiter 5. Oil for a motorcycle with a two-stroke engine
Author Anton Akhremenko asked a question in the section Service, Maintenance, Tuning
How and what kind of oil should be diluted with gasoline for motorcycles Izh Jupiter (Planet) 4-5? Tired of changing piston ones and got the best answer
Reply from V@ler@[guru]
Our domestic M8V motor oil is very suitable for two-stroke engines of IZH Planet, IZH Jupiter, and Tula motorcycles. The proportion for a mixture with 1 liter of gasoline is equal to 25 grams per liter of gasoline for IZH Jupiter and Planet motorcycles.
For a Tula motorcycle you need a little more oil– 30 grams per liter of gasoline.
In principle, almost any cheap domestic motor oil is suitable for mixing with gasoline. The main thing is that the motor oil is not synthetic or semi-synthetic. In my history of riding motorcycles, I have not found a better oil for mixing with gasoline than M8B. M8B engine oil is dark Blue colour, and it is very thick.
The main rule when mixing gasoline with oil is: - it is better to overfill than underfill! If you do not add oil to gasoline, this can have a very detrimental effect on your piston. As a result, the engine will overheat more and jamming may occur, or as our people say: catch a wedge!
When transfusing motor oil There is one small problem with gasoline, but it’s still a problem - your motorcycle’s acceleration dynamics drop. In other words, when engine oil is overfilled, your motorcycle will not gain speed as quickly, and the engine will smoke very much. A lot of bluish smoke will come out of the muffler. To prevent all this from happening, carefully observe the proportions of oil when pouring it into gasoline.
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Answer from Valentina Koryabkina[newbie]
I fill it with vegetable)
Answer from Denis[newbie]
Many people are interested in exactly how many grams or milliliters are per 1 liter of gasoline! and should not be judged by the smoke - from exhaust pipe- since there is smoke - maybe due to leaky seals between the crankcase and the transmission, you need to dilute 30-50 milliliters per 1 liter, how much is it in grams - you can measure it on the scales, it’s about 20-40, try it yourself) it’s not that difficult ))
Answer from Vladimir Levin[newbie]
Only mineral. Compared to synthetics and semi-synthetics, there are a minimum of additives insoluble in gasoline. Less carbon deposits on spark plugs, heads and rings. Before pouring the mixture into the tank, dilute it in a transparent bottle and let it settle. If there is no sediment, pour in safely.
Answer from Alexander Kulikov[active]
The piston can wear out quickly due to poorly purified air, check and maintain air filter and pipes between it and the carburetor.
Answer from -=Grizli=-[newbie]
Of the domestic oils, the best is MS-20 in proportions of 1:20 (500 ml of oil per 10 liters of gasoline) during break-in... and 1:25 (400 ml per 10 liters of gasoline) for everyday driving. You can also take 2T synthetics - there will be no carbon deposits on the spark plug and in the crank chamber (crank chamber), but the motorcycle will be littered with oil everywhere, since it, due to its physical properties, doesn't burn...
Answer from Alek Efremov[newbie]
I pour Lukoil for 2 tons per 1 liter of gasoline, 40 milliliters of oil, the engine does not smoke. I recommend this oil to everyone. It's much better than Autol. costs 600 rubles for 5 liters approximately
Answer from Artyom Epifanov[newbie]
Autol (m-8v) dilute with this
Answer from Comrade Mauser[guru]
just don't save it...
proportion
1:16 - 1:20
Answer from Yoehmet[guru]
Autol 1 to 20.
For those who don’t know, I’ll explain what a two-stroke engine is, I won’t go into too much detail, in short, there are no valves in a two-stroke engine; oil is added to gasoline to lubricate the piston and crankshaft.
Such engines are found on motorcycles (although recently four-stroke ones are used more), chainsaws with two-stroke engine, gas mowers, some voltage generators, etc. Owners of motorcycles, chainsaws, and gas mowers often wonder why the piston is jammed, or why the compression quickly disappears, that the engine does not start well, starts working intermittently, they remove the cylinder, the piston with large scuffs and crazy output.
I also once asked myself this question, it turned out that the whole issue is the oil with which gasoline is diluted.
There are a lot of special two-stroke oils on sale, I don’t even go near them now, this oil is not suitable for development two-stroke engines high speed engine.
Of course, if you have an IZH-Planet, it’s a low-revving motorcycle, then you can pour it two-stroke oil into gasoline, or be very gentle with your motorcycle, don’t give it gas all the way, then two-stroke oil will work, but if you like to give it gas, this oil will quickly spoil piston group two-stroke.
It seems that the developers of two-stroke oil simply invented it but did not even test it, and oils such as M8, MC20 should not be allowed close to a two-stroke engine if you like to drive, and if you do not give a lot of gas, then these oils can be used.
But they will still very quickly wear out the piston group of a motorcycle, chainsaws, gas mowers, in short, kill a two-stroke.
How I found a good motorcycle oil
During my life I have ridden different motorcycles, while I rode Minsk, Voskhod, IZH-Planet, I didn’t even think about oil, the engines worked fine. But when I bought the IZH-PS, after the first good race my piston jammed, I thought about it, there were only problems with the IZH-PS, as long as I don’t give the gas it goes all the way, but as soon as I give it the gas the piston or crankshaft jams. Disappointed in IZH-PS.
In my youth I was involved in motocross for two years, we had cross-country ChZs, I remember there were no major problems with the piston ones, although they kicked them in the butt, oh so good, I also remember that the smell of smoke from the exhaust was very different from the usual smoke of a motorcycle. But the fool didn’t ask the coach what kind of oil he poured into the gasoline, but I know for sure that in addition to oil, he added castor oil, but since I don’t know exactly the composition of gasoline and oil for motocross motorcycle, I won’t lie and invent anything.
I bought a cross-country ChZ-250, at first I poured two-stroke oil into the gasoline, but as soon as I gave it in, I felt that the engine was starting to drag (it might jam), I had to let off the gas and switch to moderate engine speeds.
Chance helped, I decided to go fishing on the cross-country ChZ-250, you can drive it off-road, shortening the distance, but I ran out of two-stroke oil, the question arose of what oil to dilute the gasoline with. There was only four-stroke semi-synthetic LUKOIL oil, I decided to dilute the gasoline with this oil, I think I won’t drive it, I’ll get there slowly and won’t harm the engine. But what a surprise I was when the motorcycle engine started running much softer, pulled faster, although I diluted the gasoline with four-stroke semi-synthetic oil, applied gas, beautifully, the engine was flogging and there were no signs of the piston sticking.
By the time I got to the pond, I was squeezing this cross-country ChZ-250 to the maximum, I got great pleasure from the ride, since then I have been diluting gasoline in my motorcycle and chainsaw only with four-stroke semi-synthetic oil, very pleased.
It turns out that four-stroke semi-synthetic oil best oil for a two-stroke engine and is cheaper than special two-stroke oil.
If you don’t believe me, check for yourself which is the best oil.
How can you tell if a two-stroke engine is seizing?
The very first sign is that extraneous noise suddenly appears in the engine, the engine begins to lose speed, this is a sign of the piston sticking. At this moment, immediately release the gas from the motorcycle and depress the clutch; if this is done in time, the piston will come out of this situation without damage.
How to dilute oil in what proportion for a motorcycle, chainsaw, gas mower, gas generator, etc.?
The instructions give the following ratios: for an unrun-in engine 1/20 for a run-in engine 1/25. But here you can’t stupidly follow these proportions, it all depends on how you press the gas.
If you don’t drive hard, ride quietly on a motorcycle or saw with a chainsaw and don’t press full throttle, then pouring gasoline diluted with 1/25 oil into a broken-in two-stroke engine will be good for the engine. But if you like to open the gas fully, giving the engine maximum speed, then dilute gasoline with oil in the same proportion as for break-in, 1/20, since the engine operating at maximum speed will need increased lubrication.
If you do not take this into account, then diluted gasoline 1/20 during a quiet ride will often add spark plugs, but if you drive and like full throttle, then diluted gasoline 1/25 the engine will seize at maximum speed, and this can lead to piston breakage.
A two-stroke engine is designed so that some of the oil is retained in the piston and crankshaft, but when you release gas to the fullest, a little is very strongly blown out of the piston without lingering here, laughing 1/20 is definitely needed.
An example of how to dilute oil in gasoline, let's take 1/20, it turns out that for 20 liters of gasoline 1 liter of oil, 10 liters of gasoline 0.5 liters of oil.
Why does a saw or motorcycle spit oil through the muffler?
Everything is fine here, I saw it like that and a motorcycle with a two-stroke engine spits out excess oil from the muffler. This means that you lightly pour oil into gasoline; if the engine is running perfectly, there is no need to worry. And if the engine floods the spark plugs, the engine starts to work intermittently, then reduce the amount of oil in gasoline by adding clean gasoline to the tank.
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What kind of oil should I pour into the gearbox on Izh Jupiter 5?
Ilya (Jayantika) I filled the transmission and so far everything is fine...
Sergey (Azaria) The mineral transmission is quite normal.
Alexey (Sandra) diesel is possible
Ilya (Jayantika) Alexey, it’s okay to pour diesel into the tank, otherwise it’s the first time I’ve heard that in the engine!
Sergey (Azaria) on Jupiter the gearbox is rough. Diesel oil softens the shifting a little.
Ilya (Jayantika) Sergey, you know that the box, that Jupiter, that the planet - they are the same! The only thing about Jupiter is that the switching sector works differently...
Sergey (Azaria) Ilya, I know. Only on the planet it is falling apart faster.
Ilya (Jayantika) NOTHING LIKE THIS! My dad has 24k mileage on the motorbike on the 3rd circuit, the engine was halved twice (both times replacing the seals and bearings of the KV)... there were no problems with the gearbox....
Sergey (Azaria) 24 thousand is not a mileage. And with the box it means you were lucky.
Ilya (Jayantika) Sergey, how are you reading? 24 thousand on the 3rd circle of the speedometer!
Evgeny (Cordula) Ilya, how much oil do you need in the box?
Ilya (Jayantika) liter...on all models...
Sergey (Azaria) Ilya, the speedometer on our vehicles is usually numbered up to 100 thousand.
Ilya (Jayantika) Sergey, my father himself told me that this is already the 3rd round...
Sergey (Azaria) Ilya, then this “planet” is eternal!)
Zhenya (Bertilde) how to soften gear shifting on Jupiter 5, they shift quite hard and loud.
Sergey (Azaria) Guys, can we have an industrial I-20?
Nikolay (Cynfor) Surely the book indicates a regular M8V transmission, thick for clutch in an oil bath.
Arkadiy (Webster) I use diesel, both in gasoline and in a box, or better yet17
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Izh Jupiter 5 where does the engine oil go? | Topic author: Veronica
Nina Stout correctly wrote that to lubricate the engine, oil is mixed with gasoline in a ratio of 1:20. Separately, oil is poured into Vadim’s gearbox. I’ll just clarify a little: in Izh Jupiter 5, oil is not poured with right side and on the left, not on the top but on the side, Ilya, and there is no control screw there, there is a dipstick on the mentioned cover. More oil is poured into the flywheel cavity.
To fill in
flywheel cavity on
left half
engine in it
front part
close to the engine mounting location
there is a screw
plug with slot
screwdriver Necessary
put the motorcycle
on a flat surface,
unscrew this plug
and pour it into the hole
oil Leonid so that oil
was level with the edge of Oksana's hole.
Konstantin Oil must be mixed into gasoline
Ekaterina The oil is poured into the box from the top right side, on the side on the same side there is a control screw. Oil is not poured into the engine, but mixed with gasoline in a ratio of 1:20. Read the instructions.
Vladislav If you want to fill the engine, then try through the muffler
Maria On the left Izh has a rubber piece on the engine and it says Izh you unscrew it and it fills in
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Many motorcycle owners ask the same question - what kind of oil and what kind of gasoline should I fill my motorcycle with? For domestic motorcycles, M8B engine oil is ideal, which has excellent characteristics. The recommended proportion for a mixture of oil and gasoline is approximately 1:50. If we consider this in practice, then it turns out that for every liter of AI-92 gasoline, about 25 grams of motor oil are added. For some models, such as the Urals, this proportion should be increased to 30 grams per liter of fuel. It is recommended to dilute some motor oils from gasoline in a ratio of approximately 1:25.
All necessary spare parts for the IZH motorcycle can be found in specialized stores (for example http://motaki.ru/index.php?route=product/category&path=125_80) or on the market. They are affordable and not that hard to find. If you need high-quality oil, find out about it on the market, about specialists who have been selling spare parts and fuels and lubricants. And remember that the IZH clutch operates in an oil bath. MC-20 is ideal, but as for automobile motor oil, it is better not to fill it in, as problems will arise with adjusting the clutch.
For motorcycles Dnepr, Ural, Planet, Jupiter and so on, you can use any motor oil domestic production, and even the cheapest. For a mixture with gasoline, it is not recommended to fill in synthetic or semi-synthetic oil. It is better to give preference to the so-called “mineral water”. Find out from the manager which oil to fill in the shock absorbers of an IZH motorcycle (if the shock absorber itself flies, look for it at http://motaki.ru/index.php?route=product/product&path=125_80&product_id=6918), and which one to add to the gearbox to they lasted longer. Choose only high-quality motor oil!
For those who don’t know, a two-stroke engine has no valves, and in order to lubricate the crankshaft and piston, oil is added to gasoline. These engines are on bikes. Often, bike owners wonder why the engine doesn’t start well, runs intermittently, why compression is lost, or why the piston is jammed. And often it’s all about the oil, because they dilute gasoline with it. Currently, there is a lot of two-stroke oil on sale on store shelves, but this oil is not suitable for two-stroke engines that develop high engine speeds.
The best oil for a bike
One gets the impression that when developing two-stroke oil, they invented it, but did not test it. But MC20 and M8 oils should not be allowed anywhere near a two-stroke engine if you like to race. But if you don’t give a lot of gas when riding a bike, you can use these oils.
How to find what is seizing on a two-stroke engine
The first sign is that suddenly a strange noise appears in the engine, a sign of the piston sticking, the engine loses speed. At such a moment, it is necessary to take off the gas and squeeze out the clutch; if you have time to do this in time, then the piston will come out of this situation without damage.
In what proportion should I dilute the oil for the bike?
The annotation suggests the following ratio: for a run-in engine - 1/25, for an unrun-in one - 1/20. There is no need to foolishly follow the proportions; everything will depend on how you press the gas. If you do not take this into account, then during a measured drive, diluted gasoline 1/20 will add spark plugs, but if you drive very hard and if you dilute gasoline 1/25, the engine will begin to seize at high speeds, which will lead to piston breakage.
A two-stroke engine is designed in such a way that some of the oil can be retained in the crankshaft and piston. When the gas is released to its fullest, the oil is very blown out of the piston, a mixture of 1/20 is needed here. How to dilute oil in gasoline to get 1/20? You need to take 10 liters. gasoline and half a liter of oil or 20 liters. gasoline and a liter of oil.
Why does my bike spit oil out of its muffler?
Everything is fine here, the bike spits out excess oil from the muffler. Don't worry if you add a little oil to the gasoline and the engine runs great. When the spark plugs are flooded in the engine, and the engine runs intermittently, then it is necessary to reduce the amount of oil in gasoline and add clean gasoline to the tank.
For two-stroke engines of Tula, IZh Jupiter, and IZH Planetka bikes, Russian M8V motor oil is excellent. For bikes such as Planetka and IZH, the proportion for consistency with a liter of gasoline is equal to 25 grams per 1 liter of gasoline.
For a Tula bike, you need to add a little more oil, 30 grams per liter of gasoline will be useful.
For consistency with gasoline, any Russian available motor oil is suitable. The most important thing is that the motor oil is not semi-synthetic or synthetic. Better than oil You can’t find a consistency like M8B with gasoline; this engine oil is blue in color and very thick.
The main rule says that when mixing oil with gasoline, it is better to overfill than not to overfill. If you do not add oil to gasoline, this will negatively affect the piston. Because of this, the engine will overheat and jam.
When pouring motor oil into gasoline, there is a small problem - the bike's acceleration dynamics drop. In other words, when engine oil is overfilled, the bike will not quickly gain speed, and the engine will become very smoky. A lot of blue smoke will come out of the muffler. To prevent this from happening, you must observe the proportions of oil when pouring it into gasoline.
